Wii U Woes Continue: Unreal Engine 4 Not Supported on Nintendo’s Console [Updated]

Published 1 year ago by , Updated March 31st, 2013 at 1:07 pm,

Wii U

Let’s face it: things are not looking good for the Wii U. After decent sales at launch, movement of Nintendo‘s new console has slowed substantially. More importantly, support for the platform is an outright mess.

While some games, like Watch_Dogs for example, are doing their best to keep the Wii U relevant, other publishers don’t see the value in porting a title if sales are so low. That’s why the newly unveiled Battlefield 4 is not coming to the console.

But poor sales are not been for a lacking of trying on Nintendo’s part, or at least “trying.” They’ve been recently running a flyer that helps consumers understand “Why Wii U?” Check it out below:

Wii U Flyer

Yeah, not exactly a system seller, but at least Nintendo is playing it smart and comparing their new console against the original Wii. Perhaps Wii owners will see the flyer and consider a purchase. No? Well, at least they tried.

Unfortunately, it only gets worse from there, as more publishers/developers/gaming companies are balking at Wii U support. When asked if Aliens: Colonial Marines was still coming to the Wii U, Gearbox Software‘s Randy Pitchford said “[publisher] SEGA‘s got to figure that out.”

Prior to the launch of Colonial Marines, and the subsequent critical bashing it received, hopes were high that Colonial Marines might be a solid system seller for the Wii U. Using the gamepad as a motion tracker was an interesting mechanic, and there was the promise of improved visuals.

Unfortunately, most of that hype appears to have been for naught. Neither SEGA nor Gearbox want to say the game has been cancelled, but no one wants to provide any evidence to the contrary. It just seems like a bad situation all around.

And finally comes a really big nail in the Wii U coffin: no Unreal Engine 4 support. Epic Games‘ next-gen engine has been the talk of the town since the PS4 unveiling, with gamers giddy at the possibility of better visual fidelity.

Unreal Engine 4 Wii U

However, when Epic’s VP Mark Rein was asked about whether UE4 would support Wii U, he just laughed. Well, he didn’t just laugh — he laughed and then said “no.”

Continuing on, Rein explained that Unreal Engine 3 is still perfectly capable of delivering great games, even though Unreal Engine 4 is the future of the next-gen:

“I mean, sorry, it’s not really a correct answer. We’re not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn’t disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That’s really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it’s powering some of the best games on the Wii U already.”

Things are obviously not looking good for the Wii U, but all that could change come E3. Nintendo has a big announcement-filled panel planned, where they will be brining a new Mario Kart, a new 3D Mario, and hopefully a few surprises. For now, however, momentum is planted squarely in the next-gen’s court. It’s up to Nintendo to steal it back.

[UPDATE} Mark Rein has clarified his previous statements saying that Unreal Engine 4 can run on Wii U, or any console for that matter. However, developers will likely have to make concessions in order to make that possible. Here’s the quote courtesy of Engadget:

“You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U. If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen.”

Do you think a lack of next-gen engine support will hurt the Wii U? What can save the Wii U’s downward spiral?

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Source: Kotaku, GameSpot

TAGS: Aliens: Colonial Marines, Epic Games, Gearbox Software, Nintendo, Sega, Unreal Engine, Wii U

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  1. The final nail in the coffin

    • @Atomic gumshoe

      You kind of sound like you’re happy about that… If so, WHY? If you don’t like the console, just don’t get it, why wish for it to fail? I never could understand when people wish for products they don’t personally prefer to fail… They don’t care that OTHER people might like them? So you want all of them to suffer? They don’t care that a lot of people will lose their jobs? So they want those people to suffer? They don’t care that competition helps EVERYONE, so they want EVERYONE to suffer? Come on people, grow up… If the Wii U would have been successful at competing with the other two, you probably would have seen the other two companies be more aggressive at innovation or at least drop the prices to entice people to buy their system. That would have helped all of us. With Wii U not being viable competition anymore, the other two basically have free reign to just become stagnant or jack up their prices as high as they want because they know you have no other real choice…

      But if that’s what people who want Nintendo to fail wants, then have fun guys. I game on the PC so I don’t have to worry about any of this, but the idea of wanting a company to die just because it’s not what you personally prefer always escaped me…

      • dam well said man. I tend to bash on Nintendo as well. but I never thought about it like that. I think they r to big to fail in the end, this console will go down as a loss and a mistake for them. and they will just have to bite the bullet and start planing for a new one. I think they need to just focus on games for just there systems and forget about everyone else. but to do that the price needs to be very cheap say 150$ for all future consoles. lets face it there games are very easy to make by today’s standards. there games are simple and fun with no real cost for graphics. it could be a great side market for them cheap consoles and way cheaper games than the other big two.

      • I personally disagree. I don’t want Nintendo to go out of business, really the last thing I would want, but their home console business is atrocious. If they’re putting out systems that are a generation behind each time with really bad 3rd party support, how do you seem them as a necessity for the console business? Nintendo should stick to what they’re good at and that is handheld consoles. They sell DS’s like hotcakes everywhere and they have some of the best exclusive IP’s out there. If the Wii U is failing it is no one’s fault but Nintendo’s for putting out such a mediocre product. Just because Nintendo helped shape gaming as we know it, does that mean they aren’t capable of faults?

        Nintendo needs to do some major restructuring if they want to have anymore continued success in the home console business. I would prefer them to not be making home consoles at all, but that’s my opinion. Would it really affect Sony and Microsoft’s business tactics? I doubt it seeing as the Wii U is selling horribly to begin with and publishers/developers alresdy ignoring them. So wouldn’t be much of a difference from how it is already. Just my two cents.

        • @Vampet

          I have no clue where I stated that it’s not Nintendo’s fault or that that are not capable of faults. Please re-read my statement. I’m only talking about why PEOPLE, as in CONSUMERS, WANT them to fail if they don’t personally support them. Why are people “rooting” for them to do poorly. And I stretch this to everything, I never understand why people will root for another company’s demise or failure. It’s not like they are forcing us to buy their product…

          • I’m with Ken.

          • I’m certain not everyone is rooting for Nintendo to fail. Probably just a vocal minority on the internet. There is a huge interest in the Wii U and their first party software. Just some trolls really wanttt them to fail.

          • @Vampet

            Ok, I don’t see where I claimed everyone is rooting for Nintendo to fail either… I never even mentioned any number or percentage. I simply am stating that I don’t understand why some people would…

            But I guess I’ll just agree with the trolls comment…

          • @Ken

            Well, you started off your comments by claiming the OP wants/ is rooting for Nintendo to fail. Then you soon open it up by saying “people” which would mean you are talking about people in general wanting Nintendo to fail. Which would then mean you are claiming people are wanting Nintendo to fail. You did not mention any number or percentage, but if you thought it was only a small number I don’t know why you would rant about a minor issue.

            A troll makes comments that just try to draw people to attack them. I’m just stating my opinion and so what if it differs?

          • @Vampet

            Oh wow, wow, you know what, if that’s what you felt like reading when you read what I wrote, I’m not going to keep trying to explain a simple concept over and over. Believe what you wish to man. Good for you…

            :-)

      • calm down, it’s an observation. I don’t know how I can “sound” happy, it six words.

        • @Atomic Gumshoe

          Well, here’s five words quoted from my comment, and only one of them is really important: “If so, WHY? If you…” Pay particular attention to the word “if.”

  2. Damn, Nintendo is getting hit hard with this console =/

  3. damn… they need another console and fast… they are going the way of sega and mario may end up being on the other consoles like sonic. or nintendo will just say in the handheld market. one way or the other they need to do something big.

    motion controls were a fluke, the wii was a fluke and they are paying the price for it. they need to make a console with a pad and thats it. bring in the other motion control crap later, dont make it the system seller cause no one likes motion controls now or other stupid crap. the wii u controller is not even high tech. its cheap stuff.

    • The Wii was the most sucessful console last generation being able to out sell both the PS3 and X-Box 360.

      • yep… and when that happened how often did you play it? it was a fluke, it was the time when everyone like the idea of motion controls. imo nintendo should just make handhelds and go the way of sega and just make games for all consoles.

        the wii gave nintendo a big head. like how the ps2 gave sony a big head and they made the hardware how they wanted it to be and then the devs got a hard time and made the games for xbox. and by the sounds of it microsoft are getting a big head and are making some really stupid decisions if the rumors are true.

        sony have learned from the ps3 and the ps4 seems to be the best thing going now for gaming. obviously those are rumors so nothing is set in stone but its good to see sony learn from their mistake.

        • I still play it today, why are you assuming I’m not. It’s not a fluke, there’s a lot of really great games on there that people can get addicted to like Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros. Zelda Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, Metroid and so many more.

          • Me too. It’s a great console with tons of things. And IMO, Nintendo should never make games for the compition and people who say that are dumb because they don’t understand how strong a legacy Nintendo has.

          • well excluding first party games do you buy games doe the wii or the other consoles? and dont lie. i bet there are times when you dont even put the wii on… the thing is only good for the exclusives.

          • There are a ton of great games for the Wii, many of which the average gamer hasn’t even heard of. You just need to take the time to sift through the crap and look for them. I play mine quite often and my most anticipated game next month is for the Wii, Pandora’s Tower.

          • Nintendo have openly said mario would die with them……stop being whiney b!tches and buy a nintendo….pfft hoping they fail so you can play there first party titles! shame on you all! If nintendo dies then so does the driving force of gaming!

            Some people cant see past the tip of their noses!

          • The last story and xenoblade!!! yum.

        • Wait, devs ended up making the games for the 360? Last time I checked PS3 had more exclusives than the 360. And better ones (IMO) I might add. Sure the PS3 had some difficulties to it but that didn’t seem to stop the devs.

          • sony own dev studios… they have to make games for the ps3. and what im talking about is the xbox is easier to make games for. devs make games for it and port it to the ps3. this isnt included in exclusives. thats why games sometimes are not as good on xbox.

          • What the guy said about xbox having the best ports was true….3 years ago! ;)

    • u4 and frostbite3 not coming to wii u? shocking, the two companies who regulary sleep together dislike the wii u because it didnt wanna jump in with that hussy origin! Im trying to find a reason to care about those overpriced suites when unity exists! people need to get educated! Oh and aliens aint coming cuz its absolutely tripe!

      • I’m glad someone else noticed this. I do see this as being the potential death of Nintendo though. Who would want to waste money porting over Aliens when although the motion sensor gimmick and all could be cool, the basic gameplay sucks? You know the shooting part, the part which every company that makes a game this generation knows how to do properly. Epic needs to watch out too, they are relying on this engine to keep them going which it probably will but they aren’t a giant publisher like EA or Activision and I don’t think they have super loyal fans either

    • I hope they pull through too. I don’t really plan on buying a Wii U because I’m not really into console gaming, but I really want their first party exclusives to stay around like Mario, Metroid, Zelda, and others. If they come out with some killer first party games, I MIGHT consider trying to acquire one really cheap further down the road… I got a used Wii from a pawn shop for $80, and I bought my friend’s broken Xbox 360 for $60 and fixed it, lol. The Wii mainly for the first party games, and the Xbox 360 just for Forza 4, lol.

      Like I said, I am a PC gamer, so I’m not going to pay full price for a console just for a few games…

  4. It’s like, Gamerant is ignoring all the game confirmed for the console and just looking at all the bad stuff.

    • They also said they had all these third party devs that have faith in it and now they are all backing out. And they said they were going to make it more appealing to the majority of the hardcore gamers. Where did that go? I see nothing to motivate me to go out and buy this console.

    • Is it really Gamerant’s fault for informing us of the dire situation the Wii U is in? Yes, they did have many confirmed projects for the console…which are now disappearing (ex. Aliens CM – though thank god on that one). Ubisoft, arguably the biggest third party supporter of the Wii U, has even openly ciritcized Nintendo’s handling of the situation.

  5. There not going to die, people who say that have no idea what’s happening behind the scenes, tons of new Wii U games are coming and just because Unreal Engine 4 doesn’t support Wii U isn’t the final nail on the coffin, it’s just graphics, and graphics are the least important thing about gaming.

    • I wholeheartedly agree that graphics are not the most important thing, but this is just another barrier between 3rd party developers and the Wii U.

    • I really enjoyed a lot of the first party games on the Wii, and the Wii U has the same going for it. While the Unreal 4 engine definitely isn’t the end of the console obviously, I think in the future when Unreal 4 is somewhat of the norm for several games, a lot of developers might start avoiding making any games for the Wii U. Definitely not saying graphics is everything for a video game or anything, but if the game I was developing were to use Unreal Engine, I’d probably want to go with the latest engine, even if one of the consoles don’t support it. Just how I see it.

    • The thing is, yes tons of new Wii U games are likely to be announced at E3, but they will mostly be 1st party exclusives, though I’m definitely not saying that is bad! It’s just a difficult situation for 3rd party’s on the Wii U. Nintendo is not handling this well at all. If they want the Wii U to thrive, they have to get more 3rd party developers making exclusive or even superior ports for the Wii U.

      • There game plan was, Have the third party developers make games for the Hardcore gamers on the Wii U and say that because of the GamePad, it would make the experience better for the gamer than on PS3 or X-Box. There plan was to have the developers advertise there games on Wii U as superior than any where else.

  6. Me too. It’s a great console with tons of things. And IMO, Nintendo should never make games for the compition and people who say that are dumb because they don’t understand how strong a legacy Nintendo has.

    • Sega and Atari had strong legacy’s, but look what happened to them. Although, I doubt that will be happening any time soon as Nintendo’s handheld console business is booming. So, just to make it clear, having a strong legacy does not set your future in stone as screwing up big time (Wii U) can definitely change that. Good thing 3D’s are selling great to balance out the Wii U backlash.

  7. i dont see why Nintendo doesn’t just remake all the old games from the Nintendo 64

    • Because, some things just make too much sense, that’s why.

    • They technically have, with them appearing on Handhelds than on consoles.

  8. I don’t understand HOW a system, which after the first 4 months of sales, has been one of the HIGHEST selling in HISTORY, can be deemed a failure, or in need of a coffin or be seen as nothing LESS than a moderate success. Can anyone explain that to me?

    Also, how can an engine run on cellphones and tablets, but can’t be used on the Wii U? Rein himself laughed and said “No”, then he corrected himself and said “I mean, sorry, it’s not really a correct answer. We’re not…” Not what? Not actively promoting or advertising it to be run on the Wii U, perhaps? I think he’s just blowing smoke. If a developer chose to use Unreal 4 on the Wii U, spent the time and money to PROPERLY, that’s the key word here, develop for it, the Wii U could support the engine no problem.

    Even if, by some stretch of the imagination, the Wii U is fully incapable of running Unreal 4…so what? Because it can’t run one engine, it’s the “nail in the coffin” for the Wii U? Come on, you can’t be serious. There are a ton of other great engines that produce fantastic games that will run flawlessly on the Wii U. Just because a game has the Unreal logo on it does not make it a good game. Some of the worst games this generation were running on U3. Too Human? 50 Cent? Leisure Suit Larry? Hail to the Chimp? Game of Thrones? X-men Destiny? If that’s some of the quality we can expect from U4, I’d buy a Wii U just so I wouldn’t have to play crap games like that.

    • Yeah and you know ALL games made with the Unreal Engines are such poop like:

      Batman Arkham Asylum & Arkham City
      Bioshock Infinite
      Devil May Cry
      All of the Gears of War games
      All of the Mass Effect games
      The High Moon Transformers games

      Yeah real crap…

      • I didn’t say they were ALL crap. I said just because a game has the Unreal logo on it is not an indication of quality. You can read can’t you?

        • I’m sorry – I didn’t realize I needed fanboy goggles to translate your post – let me help those who don’t own a pair:

          “Some of the best games this generation were running on U3; Batman Arkam games, Mass Effect & Bioshock, to name a few. If that’s some of the quality we can expect from U4, (redacted) then I am extremely disappointed with my purchase of a Wii U and want to try to reduce my buyer’s remorse by spouting a bunch of crap pigeon-holing the U3 as a poor engine when we all know it runs the best games of the generation.”

          Better?

          • You still mis-read his statement. “Just because a game has the Unreal logo on it does not make it a good game. Some of the worst games this generation were running on U3.” The Unreal Engine doesn’t make the game. It’s what people do with it that makes the game.

            Everyone knows that the U can run on U3 and two of the 3 games you mentioned are out on the U. His point was “If a developer chose to use Unreal 4 on the Wii U, spent the time and money to PROPERLY, that’s the key word here, develop for it, the Wii U could support the engine no problem.” I think that is a true statement.

            Most developers do not want to spend time doing the proper research of how to get the most out of the U because they prefer to play it safe even with current gen consoles and future gen consoles. While the consoles are more powerful and faster, the overall philosophy of gameplay remains the same with them.

            The fact that the gamepad can be used to enhance the gameplay experience is thinking outside of the box for them. Hence, they decide to play it safe and develop for what they are familiar with.

            N’s challenge is to try and get the 3rd party’s to go beyond what is comfortable, to re-invent and build on the gameplay experience. That will take time to do. Whether they warm up to it and come around is dependent upon us as consumers.

            Get enough games where the gamepad enhances and redefines the gameplay experience and you force developers to start taking it seriously.

  9. Lack of support just means a shorter console life cycle, not a bad console, just extremely poor timing. Or weak hardware, depending how you look at it.

    • imo wii u isnt next gen (ps4 and next xbox)… its this current gen. it came extremely late and is suffering.

      • @COREY

        If you really want to be technical, the “next gen” consoles from Sony and Microsoft are only next gen for consoles, not for hardware in general. When they come out, the hardware would already be at least one generation behind. Same story with every new console release unfortunately…

      • Next Gen is the console that comes after a pervious console, the only reason people assioate it with graphics is because Nintendo upgraded from 8-Bit to 16-Bit.

  10. it is next gen. Please stop talking.

    • and the hardware sucks!

      • Hardware shouldn’t important, it’s about the games and how they work and use the console’s controller for innovation. The PS4 will always have better hardware than Microsoft and Nintendo because there a Hardware company. Microsoft is a software company and Nintendo is a Gaming Company, there not going to have the best hardware, but there going to advance it from previous models so it can be more innovative.

        • Maybe you need to do some research. Sony has been making software for ages, pretty damn good software I may add. Microsoft has been making hardware for ages, pretty damn good hardware I may add. I don’t think you can claim either of those companies are primarily focussed on one end of the coin. Especially in these days where technology (be it hard- or software) is developing at am extreme rate, or can simply be purchased, which both companies do on a regular base. If you wanna talk innovation, my vote goes out to Microsoft. If you don’t know why, use Google and try to find some of their projects ;)

          Apart from that though (and on a more general note):

          Nintendo has had its focus on gaming from the start. I’ve been a huge fan of Nintendo, but I’ve been massively disappointed ever since my N64. THe Cube was a total joke for me. Not so much because of the hardware, even though that was ancient at the time of launch, but mostly because of the “top titles”. Or should a say lack of? The Wii seriously didn’t bring anything that gave me that WOW-feeling that my N64 did. I decided not to get the U because I knew my friends would get it. Sorry,… but no. Underwhelmed. Massively underwhelmed. Zombie-U is nice, but boy-o-boy, it gets so annoying after a while, especially if you want to kill zombies (if there’s such a thing like killing something that is already dead). It’s like trying to play tennis with a golf club, and only being allowed to use your left hand while being right handed. The little screen didn’t really add anything for me other than being a distraction and a forced evil to even be able to play the game. I’m sore though some decent titles will hit the shelves sooner or later. But I am also rather sure there are going to be too few quality games, again.

          I think I am one of the few people that went for all three platforms. My switch to PS2 was not a happy one. I simply expected too much from that machine. The PS3 was really nice, but is now being used to watch movies, and that’s all. Sony completely screwed up the online experience, for me, more than once. I like online gaming so I decided to get a 360 as well. The hardware is not the quality of the PS3, that’s a fact. But it gave me a lot of gaming, offline and online. And there were quite a few worthwhile indie games as well. I ended up having so many games that it was even worth the money to buy a new 360 after my first one broke down (that’s how crappy the quality of the console is). Hell, I bought a third after me second one broke down.

          I guess in the end the gaming experience for me counts. Nintendo earned my respect with good hardware, and up to the N64, a good selection of high quality games. Many good memories there. Sony earned my respect by building the PS3 with great titles. The experience was ruined by poor online gaming, but it’s still a damn solid addition for my home theatre for watching BR movies. The choice for Microsoft was born out of my hunger for a decent platform that allowed me to play games online, while still being able to play great titles. Even crappy console build quality is not enough to make me lean back towards the other two anymore.

          Now, for the next generation consoles, I will simply wait. I’ve seen and experienced the Wii U now. That approach is not getting my money. The Sony presentation of the PS4 expects me to believe that there is a great console out there that is completely invisible. And Microsoft still has to squirt out something about its attempt to make the future of gaming a happy one.

          We’ll see. I’m not in a hurry. I’m currently not a fan of any party, and if apart from the Wii-U, the PS4 and 720 (if that’s really the name) will disappoint too, I will just skip a generation and focus on PC gaming again.

          Stay tuned for my next book.

    • It is not next-gen, don’t be blind.

      • It is Next Gen, Next Gen is a game console that comes after the predecessor.

        • The PS4 and probably the new Xbox will be next-gen. The Wii U, is not. In order to be considered “next-gen”, there has to have been a considerable change in what a system can do. The Wii U is half a generation behind again, And third partys are disappointed In that..

          • And there is, the Wii U has a gamepad which can act as a touch screen, your saying it’s not next gen, but then it can do stuff the competitors can’t do. Nobody knows what’s next gen anymore, next gen is the game console that comes after the previous one. (i.e Sega Master System, Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast; NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii; PS1, PS2 PS3, PS4; X-Box, X-Box 360, X-Box….. 720?) Those consoles are all apart of a new gen NES is 3rd Gen, SNES was 4th and N64 was 5th Gen.

  11. Who buys a nintendo console for games like battlefield or cod or even stupid fifa not me most of the people that buy nintendo consoles get it for games like zelda, mario, metroid, donkey kong and much more Nintendo need to realise most of there fanbase is still loyal to them and we don’t care about s***** third party games from other companies! boy I have a wii u and I’m only getting the games that are exclusive to wii u!

  12. Having Tomb Raider and Bioshock Infinite released on it wouldn’t have hurt.

  13. Update: Rein spoke with Engadget and clarified his comment from the presentation, noting that it’s totally possible to run Unreal Engine 4 games on Wii U. “You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U,” he said. “If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen.”

    And this is what he said today. Games can be scaled to mobile phones as well

    • I like that you cut the quote at the part where he says:

      “While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a “true” next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.”

      LOL, way to use a quote for your single-minded purposes…

      • Very true. When I read the original article with him laughing at the question of UE4 supporting Wii U, man that was pretty cold. Hopefully Nintendo realizes what they’re doing wrong.

  14. I have said it before, and I will say it again: Nintendo: STOP MAKING HARDWARE. Focus on software. Your consoles are synonyms with failed innovation, while your games are hailed as the best things to happen to gaming since Tetris. Think about this: Sony and Microsoft would give you their first born child if you made games for their consoles, and even more if you agreed to only make them for one. You would sell more copies than ever before, and would finally be in the black again. No more losses. It would be the high point of your existence! No more “Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games”! You would never need to produce shovelware again just to make some cash. Everygame you released would have more pre-orders than you would know what to do with. Sony and Microsoft would have less console competitors, so they would sell more consoles, and they would get a cut from the game sales. EVERYBODY WINS. The gamers win, the companies win, and the stock holders win.

    • Nintendo would never do that, if they stop making console, then they go out with dignity and not make any games for the competitors. They want to go out with honor and make games for Microsoft and Sony would be more of a low point than high point. Not only that, but there are tons of people who love the Wii U. So wishing they making hardware tortures the people who do like it.

      • I get the subliminal message that he wants to play Mario and all the other 1st party N games on his other console. I guess everyone is a N fan at heart even though they won’t admit it. :D

  15. Here’s a follow-up – that a lot of Wii U defenders have been touting as bolstering the ailing machine:

    “You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U, he said. If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen…”

    Sounds good right? But here’s what I have seen conveniently left out of his quote:

    “…While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a “true” next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.”

    LOL good stuff.

    • Look again. That “quote” you are referencing is not attributed to Rein. The writer of the article said that. But, it’s obvious if a game is ported from it’s PC counterpart, it is not going to look as pretty on a lower end device. That pretty much goes without saying. However none of that has anything to do with the capability of the Wii U running U4, which is what was originally in question.

      • Post has been updated with the quote from Rein. EastoftheAnduin is right though; the latter part of the post is not a direct quote, but just the writer’s opinion.

  16. Death to Nintendo!!!

    • No.

    • What the heck is wrong with you, you’re a horrible person.

  17. i usually tend to hate on Ninty as well but Ken is right. its just nintendo has made bad decisions. they repeated the mistake they made with the Wii by not upgrading its graphical capabilities by much. once the 720 and ps4 come out the Wii U will be left in the dust again graphically speaking tho the controller looks interesting and might be a selling point.

    only thing ive ever personally liked about Nintendo was a gamecube game called Geist *totally kick ass with enjoyable multiplayer as well* and Metroid and Other M was garbage so if they cant do another good Metroid game ala Prime series im afraid ill just keep my Wii and itll be the last Nintendo system i buy except the pink DS i kinda want since my advance sp is finally dying.

    • just for me personally Nintendo isnt my style. i kinda feel like Nintendo isnt really sure about what the modern gamer really wants anymore like they are kinda stuck in the 90′s which is how i see it and im probably wrong about that

      • What there trying to do is that trying to have the developers advertise the game as better on Wii U than on PS3 and X-Box 360 to attract the Hardcore gamers.

  18. i wish sega would try the console market again but they have been getting progressively weaker and weaker so i know to never expect that.

  19. The Wii U IS next gen. Like it or not.

    • And it is, but people want to think it isn’t because the every dumb reasons. Next Gen is the next console in a line up, not the upgrades to the graphics, hardware or controller.

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