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  • Kelly
    Just tried it on the PC. The graphics look very dated. No real effort put inot the gameplay either. AVP2 was heaps better. I doubt I'd spend any money on this!
  • The demo was rather poorly put together and the game has a few quirks, but I am really enjoying this game. I've found each of the races to be fairly well balanced and the game-play increasingly addictive.

    The way you describe your "strike one, strike two, strike three" approach to the game is the same way I approached Borderlands. The game seemed to be nothing spectacular, the same-old fare with a buggy/glitchy engine. But then the further I got into the game, the less I saw the those initial glaring flaws and started to really understand what made the game work.

    Dunno, I dig it.
  • Calvin
    I agree that the demo had some flaws (matchmaking is terrible, I found playing as an alien was clunky at times, and the graphics aren't the best), but I actually really like it. Initially, I hated it. It was cumbersome and I kept dying because I didn't know what to do. Eventually you get a feeling for it and it really grows on you.

    The graphics can be overlooked, the reviewer's strike 2 was not a problem for me, and his strike 3 is a bust because I looked at and configured the controls for all 3 species very easily through the menu. There is enough balance, because it's usually just melee-ing eachother (or, for the marine, being melee'd). In one game, a predator got some kind of disc projectile which is a one hit kill and locks on. Needless to say, there was rape, and it was not in my favour.

    I've played predator twice and still don't know how to do everything. I agree that the cloak sucks (and both classes can see you via radar blips or alien-vision). I've played marine about twice as well and he's pretty standard. Weapon placement is lame but everything is OK (although the firing sounds were retarded when I first heard them). Alien is my favourite, unless the enemy has any kind of ranged attack; then you're boned.

    The level in the demo is terrible. I do not see myself playing deathmatch often, but there are many other modes that seem interesting. Also, after playing this, it's made me think of the singleplayer campaigns, which I now look forward to a lot more.

    Overall, not bad. Certainly not more than I expected, but I'm definitely not disappointed. I am content with AvP.
  • devoedanzie
    What people dont understand is that this is the unfinished version of the demo it says that when you first start it so of course most of this stuff is fixed by now
  • You're right. I should have written this into the post as a
    disclaimer. Others have mentioned the same thing. This demo is based
    on old code so the released game will likely be very different.
  • andrew
    I tried it just now and I didn't like it at all. I was the Colonial Marine and I spent the entire time being killed by either the Alien or the Predator. Maybe I'm not seeing the fully balanced game, but the human archetype seemed seriously flawed. I definately will not be getting this game. I liked your review.
  • I've played all three races quite extensively, and though there's a great level of balance, I've got to say it's tipped in the Marine's favor. After a Marine has learned how to use the weaponry and how to effectively use the melee system, he's incredibly difficult to kill.

    It's a shame. This game reminds me in so many ways of Splinter Cell: Pandora's Tomorrow / Chaos Theory and their amazing cat-&-mouse-like multiplayer. Just like those games, AvP is being hit for being a clunky Unreal modification with too steep a learning curve.

    I hope Rebellion makes it through this iteration, I really do, because a cleaned up sequel built for the Call of Duty age would be glorious.
  • lu
    having been a fan of the older games i have been looking forward to this game for a while , the game its self is fun to play and the graphics are much better than as the review put ''Half Life 2 '' he also forgot to mention that the demo is only the dix 9 version and the full game will suport dix 11 , as for the game play it, yes can be spammy in the melles , but over all i enjoyed eating my friends faces . is a fun game buggy at times but over all fun and am looking forward to try out the coop mode
  • hudson
    i was a human and i came in first or second almost everytime. i thought it was fun. if the final game is simaler to the way the demo played then i think rebellion should delay the game a couple months to polish, but it was still fun. deathmath was the worst possible choice for the demo.
  • eddieM126
    Played it on xbox live. Gameplay feels ok not glitchy ver smooth. But all the e tras sucked graphics weapons and the menus were hard to navigate the background and foregrond are the exact same colors and graphics. The level is super boring and the humans are exetemely lmited movment wise. Can't jump or climb for crap. And if you're not one of th first in the lobby before a match u won't get a predator spot.
  • Jack
    I don't understand eddieM126, what is an "e tras"? What's a foregrond? Once you have learned basic English, maybe then you won't find the menus hard to navigate.
  • dfhgn
    I like it a lot. I'm buying it on launch day. Each race has its own abilities/tools and each one is fun to play as.
  • blah
    The reviewer couldn't find the Alien controls - lol what a n00b.

    Yeah this is a pre-release code demo, hopefully the full game will be good.

    Also; Why are you reviewing a demo?
  • Rob_Keyes
    It's not a review, it's a first impression discussion piece on the demo...
  • It's awesome, works great - no bugs, you're an imbecile. Don't you think it's time to get an XBOX360?
  • BillyBob
    He DID say he had an XBOX360.
  • HAMMMMM
    Once you actually give the game a chance and learn its control scheme, it gets highly addictive. Since the demo is using an old cold (meaning the final release will have an updated expierience) and is already pretty addictive, im looking forward to what the full game has to offer. I downloaded this on the Xbox and PC and ive found that the Xbox gets the better deal in gameplay. The matchmaking is much faster and the controls are much easier to adhere to than the PC counterpart.
  • eddieM126
    Core gameplay is good but game looks like it needs another 5 months of polishing
  • Flame_US3r
    The demo is running 1 year old code. There is your 5 months +7.

    I'm looking forward to the final release of this game.
  • eddieM126
    That's good news I'm playing the demo right now and it is fun just not quite balanced and with the right depth. However a full year plus a few bug fixes after launch will I think make this buyable.
  • I'll probably give it another shot on my xbox since I can imagine the control scheme might be better suited to a console.
    I suppose old code could mean they've fixed everything I didn't like. If I get the chance I'll try the full version.
    I bet other modes could be much more fun. Deathmatch just didn't do it for me.
  • hudson
    i forgot the demo was a year old, i was woried as i also thought the game needed polishing. but anyway thought the demo was fun and cant wait to get my hands on it.
  • rouzeki
    the final game got a 5.75 in game informer, but i love the demo, and if it's using year old code, then i'm assuming that i'll probably love the final game even more.
  • hudson
    ude dont even listen to that review. the guys main complains were the alien was disorienting, and wall climbing was crap. the predator was to stealthy. the motion censor was bad and ruined the marine campain. and the funnyist of all he said you cant see anything with the flashlight. it should work better he said
  • didn't like the alien at all, it was impossible to kill the marine. not gunna buy it.
  • Sd1
    You didn't use focus mode i guess, focus mode + light attack = kills from half a room away.
  • Focus mode. The new name for targeting. Good to know.
  • I am very disappointed by the fact that there is no campaign demo. I really hate when they put out a only multiplayer demo. When I try a game, I like to see the single player campaign. If this is great, then you know for sure that the multiplayer will be awesome. But now I am left whit a very empty stomach.
  • This thread blew up like Jesse Ventura's chest.
  • Eggman
    If you begin to use even the slightest hint of strategy the marine is incredibly weak....As for not being able to find the alien controls....wow...Just wow.
  • Barney
    i honestly hate the pc version of the demo. I played it on my xbox and was like woah...the diffrence is quite shocking. I just hate the fact that the graphics on the xbox are nothing like the ones on the computer.
  • In regards to the low-quality graphics, well, their more recent build of the game seems to look pretty detailed to me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuERfZ4qAdI&feat...

    Full 3D alien-flesh on the walls instead of the 2D ones featured in the demo, more advanced lighting coming from the flares, and the character models look higher poly (likely from the DirectX11).

    EDIT: (Uh, this is an Xbox 360 version, so nix the DirectX11 bit).
  • hudson
    yes the graphics are much better there. the games graphics look like a 8.5 out of 10 there. thats up from the demo which is like a 5.5
  • hudson
    the graphics for the final game will be better, as the demo is like a year old, same with overall gameplay. but i cant belive they did deathmatch. that was a horrible idea. they should have done species deathmatch. the reception would have been much better.

    also on xbox live the demo has 4 n 2/3 stars out of 5. same as BF BC2
  • Alex G
    The first AVP for PC was the first game I got into as an online FPS. It was a 5 star game that lived up to the movies. The second game was good, and deserving of the title but the multiplayer was weak. In the 8 years since a last AVP FPS we have seen only one AVP game to my knowledge and the movies were mediocre at best. I have been looking forward to a new AVP FPS for years so naturally I downloaded this demo.

    I am thoroughly unimpressed. The graphics are dated, as in 3 years+ dated. The level is a piss pore design that doesn't even manage to be as good as that of the first games. You are defaulted to what I would call a boring weapon selection off the bat. A pulse rifle with no grenades, and the predator hand claws. Those who remember the earlier games will recall that your class as marine was SELECTABLE. You didn't have to scavenge a shitty map to find a decent gun. (which is a huge burden as a marine to get to the smart rifle). Fitting with the predators technological advantage in the movies the previous games started you with the major weapon systems.

    Movement is very difficult to get used to. marines cant even manage to jump a foot or crawl up onto higher stairs. The aliens movement is the opposite of fluid and spider like which the previous games condoned very well. The predator has a strange jump ability that only seems to work for certain locations. The default speed is slow and cumbersome, forcing you to hold down the sprint button which is stupid and ridiculous to hold a hand on another key.

    The combat is weak, and feels poorly designed. When in melee as predator or alien, it feels unnatural and as a player you feel removed, the block ability feels more fitting with a street fighter game. as a marine tracking the enemy seems overly difficult. As predator targeting with weapon systems is slow and difficult. Targeting with the laser is especially difficult and completely unlike that of the movies and comic books where it was integrated into your mask. the aliens tail is a one click affair and doesnt include the previous windupability to make a more damaging strike. A critical hit with double jaws requires a grab, a stupid finishing move that leaves you vulnerable to other enemies.
  • OTWarrior
    What crack were you smoking? I can understand the game loading issues, but the controls are clearly marked on the options screen (one for each species), and the graphics are stunning. I can barely run the game on my rig (forcing me to upgrade unfortunately) but when I got it running fairly well it looked awesome (I can run Crysis on medium at 1900x1200, just to give you an idea of PC spec).

    Granted, not the best choice of map and game mode for a demo, but I suspect this is their chance to test network performance (as seems to be the norm these days with demos).

    I for one am looking forward to the full game, even though it will hit my budget heavily to upgrade.
  • Although I disagree with your graphics comments, I did eventually find
    the controls. These were much more obviously located and shown before
    the game started on the console versions, but they're there in the PC
    settings as well. Is it beyond the realm of possibilities to show
    controls on the load screens especially in the demo where most people
    will not have played a single game before? It's not quite as hard to
    find as I made it out to be but there's a ton of controls all
    different for each race and without teaching a player how to play it's
    tough to make them like the game. It becomes a more strategic game
    once you learn controls, but I still think they're clunky, slow, and
    not very intuitive.
  • hudson
    that guy who reviewed it was a idiot. he said the pred was to stealthy,alien sucked because you can climb on walls,marines campaign ruined because of the noice the motion sencer made. he barley mentioned multiplayer the games main focus. dude look at all the reviews. its getting in the mid 80's
    http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=100...
  • OTWarrior
    Just look at your screenshots on your review. How can you say the graphics are bad?
    I am a graphics whore, and think the graphics are stunning. I really don't understand what your problem with them is. It's a multiplayer demo. multiplayer environments are often more baren than the singleplayer, one due to performance issues (more simple = less lag), and functionality. I thought the player models were excellent and the textures were great (even when I turned the graphics down). What game would you say has great graphics? and I do disagree with the cloaking texture point. It ties in with the films and makes it easier to spot (but I did find myself going "was that the predator?" when there wasn't one there, so it helps in the fear factor), without making the predator too obvious.

    I agree the controls are complicated (I couldn't work out how to fire the plasma caster as a predator), but the controls were not hidden like you said in the review. Due to my PC struggling with the spec, I did give up at that point and play it on my 360, but I did find the integration of the melee system into the non-human classes to be a great idea. Like any new system, it takes some getting used to (you could argue that Street fighter 4's ultra and super system is too difficult, and that FULL game has no tutorial at all)
  • furious1116
    Fair enough review, Alex. I found the demo to be rather unimpressive, but I kept in mind that it was only that: a demo. And the disclaimer at the beginning that warns you that it is based on older coding is comforting. For a demo that is supposedly not reflective of the final product, i'm still keeping my hopes up.

    However, Game Informer apparently rated it 5.75. That is quite alarming. Game Informer has, in my opinion, risen to be one of the better gaming mags and thus i'm a bit worried if they're slamming it with a 5.75.

    In the end, remember that basing a review on a demo is a bad idea. I'm gonna wait til the full game is out until I make up my mind. Frankly I love Alien and Predator, so no matter what, i'll be there on launch day (or midnight release). We'll see what happens then. As unimpressed with the demo as I was, I still play it lol.

    No matter what GI or any other mag/site says, one man's garbage is another man's treasure.
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